Transcripts. Bannon’s War Room. U.S. Director Of National Intelligence Calls For ‘Pre-bunking’ Disinformation and Censoring Anti-Ukraine Narratives Through ‘Alliance’ With Big Tech. January 2, 2023
Part II Globalists Are Waging A War For ‘Sovereignty Of Your Mind’ By Weaponizing Censorship Of ‘Disinformation.’ Topic: National Intelligence/Censorship. Natalie Winters
Transcripts from Bannon’s War Room on Rumble: U.S. Director Of National Intelligence Calls For ‘Pre-bunking’ Disinformation And Censoring Anti-Ukraine Narratives Through ‘Alliance’ With Big Tech.
Published January 2, 2023.
BBC radio clip of British intelligence host interviewing
“Put the right people in place and in power to take action. And so, we watch as authoritarian states, take advantage of that open information space and, you know, promote their own narratives and exacerbate divisions in our society. And I think this is something that, you know, is sort of a growing area for intelligence communities. As I watched so many of my kind of interlocutors begin to develop, you know, sort of offices and centers and so on looking at foreign malign influences and sometimes referred to and, you know, and thinking about how do we manage this in our areas.
And in the context of Russia Ukraine, I thought it was really interesting. I learned certainly a lot of lessons through the experience and among them was in this space. So, we obviously tried to counter disinformation that the Russians were putting out. We saw that they were looking to create a pretext for the invasion, and we wanted to sort of debunk that and help people understand that this was a false narrative.
And so, by finding ways to declassify certain information, while still trying to protect our sources and methods so we don't lose the access that is so critical to our work, you know, we were able to have an impact in a sense on the conversation about this. And yet at the same time what also is clear as you sort of look back at the situation is that our impact was far greater in the West than it was in other places in the world. So, when it came to Russia, we had basically no impact.
You know the people of Russia had controlled information provided to them for the most part, very hard to penetrate in effect. But we also saw, you know, you can sort of understand that in the Russia space you recognize how much effort the Russian government, Putin puts into controlling information in Russia. But what we also saw was that we were not that impactful in other countries that already had sort of taken on the narrative of what the Russians were pushing.
And the Russians engaged in a very concerted information campaign and around the world on these issues. And one of their main narratives, is that the United States is provoking this conflict and that NATO and Ukraine are, you know, setting the conditions and threatening Russian and that sort of forced them into this position. And in fact, when you are pushing out information to population that is already skeptical of you it's much harder to gain traction in those scenarios. So, we recognized that we were able to have impact, I think in countering this information but that there were limits on what we were able to do and that we needed to understand that in order to really understand how we can counter this moving forward.
So let me pick up a few of those things. I think I agree with the thrust of your argument there. The first thing around declassification of intelligence, as a 30-year intelligence professional and this is quite hard in many ways, and I think our people find it quite hard. You've put a lot of effort into getting secret intelligence, but I always think there’s no point collecting it, unless you use it. The sea change we've seen during this conflict of getting the intelligence out there and using it to pre bunk, to try and undermine that sort of narrative, I completely agree with that, but of course it is also the case as you've said that for much of the world, they haven't completely bought into that side of the argument. And much as we know it to be truthful, there are different and counter-narratives.”
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Steve Bannon
Natalie Winters, that is so draw tracking shot dropping. They aren't even shy about it anymore. They're not even shy about it. These are not to MSNBC analyst. This is not to of the kind of the weirdos you see up on MSNBC or even CNN, just talking smack all the time. You got head of British intelligence and Avril Haines, he's the interviewer, the pre bunking.
By the way, I was thinking as this was going on, David Halberstam, who wrote ‘The Best and the Brightest’ about the debacle that became Vietnam, is rolling over in his grave to even listen this.
The New York Times and the Washington Post, all you guys on the Pentagon Paper, are you kidding me? Compare the Pentagon papers, what we went through with the Pentagon papers out there. And think about what she just said in relation to the Pentagon Papers and even certain aspects of Watergate, Natalie Winters. I am gob smacked about this interview and how brazen they are right? Now they're just up in your grill, ma'am.
Natalie Winters
Yeah, I don't know how anyone can come away from that interview and not really come to the conclusion that our intelligence agencies, not just here in the United States, but really in the West have declared I think a full-blown information war on us. And just for context of people, speaking, that's DNI, Avril Haines and the director of the Government Communications Headquarters, the GCHQ, over in the UK, which, like I said, is Britain's largest intelligence agency. So, these are not just some random people.
These are the people at the top of the food chain, making the decisions about how intel is either used for purposes of pre bunking and debunking and post bunking, misinformation or that the federal government would not play a role in this kind of misinformation landscape. But I think it gets back the central issue which honestly I think will be the biggest issue, not just a 2023, but going forward but really is this fusion between the public and the private sector and getting to determine what exactly constitutes misinformation.
And I think what we're seeing really is a fundamental push from the intelligence agency, the Intelligence Community, which really is the backbone, is the spine of the Administrative State, really just do away with the first amendment should do away with freedom of speech. I wouldn't be surprised if they and the Democrats, they control try to amend the First Amendment to put disinformation as a class of not you know, speech that's not protected.
Steve Bannon
We can't get into a first amendment because this is, I am almost thinking they want to do it so, there's some marginal changes. The whole show today is of a whole cloth, starting from Flynn. That's why I had Flynn wrong with that piece, and it talked about that piece about the World Economic Forum and Ukraine. And then the Rasmussen poll and the Rasmussen information, given what we've set the Biomedical Security State, then Andy Biggs the reason we're having this fight in the house.
Natalie, you have to go after the Administrative State, hammer and tong now. It's not any marginal law that we increase. This is not even about Free Speech. There so brazen, they've tossed that aside. This is about their total and absolute control over you and what is the narrative and what the narratives are going to sign up for.
Look what she said about Ukraine. Yes, there are open questions about the escalation, the escalatory policy of the regime that's in Washington, D.C. right now and about Ukraine and the money laundering in Ukraine. Everything about Ukraine. Why are spending a hundred billion dollars and they're sitting there right there. Yeah, those are the ones we got to take care of out of the box.
I think this is so much deeper than just First Amendment. The Administrative State and its information war against the American people and free people everywhere. The five I’s program is what she told in Australia, New Zealand Canada, the Great Britain.
This is so fundamental, and this is why you're having this huge fight over Kevin McCarthy because you have to go and take this. You have to and he's promised a joint Select Committee on going after the weaponization of government. He's promised that and people are still saying that's not good enough because you don't have the stones to see it through to the end.
That's what this is going to be about. That's why we had Flynn at the beginning. This is about understanding the problem but understand how endemic it is that this is just not some sort of marginal thing on some law we got to get pass or repeal the Patriot Act. It's so much deeper than that.
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“And one of their main narratives, is that the United States is provoking this conflict and that NATO and Ukraine are, you know, setting the conditions and threatening Russian and that sort of forced them into this position.”
- From posted clip of British Intelligence reporter commenting on Putin’s information control to Russians and the world
Well, Biden did do this... tell me no one remembers the news reports of him preemptively warning Zalinsky about Russia attacking Ukraine. Biden told Zalinsky that the US is coming to help and that Ukraine can count on the US to help protect Ukraine from Russia. And that Russia had better not attack. And I say, or what?
Zalinsky in response told Biden to stand down That he knows what is happening in day to day intelligence. Basically he told Biden to check his rhetoric against Putin. This conversation was on or around Jan 20th, 2022.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-28/zelenskiy-criticizes-biden-talk-of-war-with-russia-a-mistake
This exchange between Biden and Zalinsky took place 1 month before Putin actually attacked Ukraine which was on Feb 24th,2022. My point is I believe the US started this war or at least propelled it into starting sooner than it did. All in the name of Russia, Russia, Russia. This is another wagging the dog operation and not the first they have done it. Let’s start a war while the economy is in the shitter.
The USA has no business accusing Russia or any other country of peddling dis, mis or mal-information for controlling a narrative.
Biden must clean up his own house in that respect! Never gonna happen but the USA is one of the worst for spreading mis,dis, mail-information to control the information and news narrative politically or otherwise. The intelligence community and the DOJ are all complicit in leaking information to the public sector. It all about control people...
And now all opinions and facts will be pre-bunked so as not to spread MIs, dis, and mail-information that goes counter to their narrative. In-fucking-sane!!!